korralin sulphur denitrator ????????????

[Leon]

:confused: what is and how does a korralin sulphur denitrator work and how much?
also would i be able to run one with out a sump thanks:D

[Kev]

Hi Leon

Don't understand the theory behind how this kit works, but essentially it is there to help reduce nitrates. I think you can run this kit without a sump.

If I were in your shoes, I would not be looking at something like this at present. Your system is new, give it time to settle. It can be many months before a tank is fully mature. See how things settle out.

You have already taken some action to reduce your nitrates.

I think you are better on finding solutions to the problem at this time, you are not tackling the source of the problem by introducing some equipment.

What are your nitrate levels at the moment?

Kev

[Leon]

checked them earlier and they are about 20 gonna do partial cahge tomorrow this should have it lower still:D what does the cycle of nitrates in your tank peek and seetle at ?

[course-its-reefsafe]

If you do need any info on these in the future, please feel free to pm me.

I've been running one for quite a while now :D


Cheers

Chris :)

[Kev]

Hi Leon

I have never experienced nitrates. Detectable ones at any rate, although I would think there will always be an unprocessed, unmeasurable amount there.

I put this down to very high water circ and good skimming.

Kev

[course-its-reefsafe]

I've started a couple of large threads about nitrate on another BB.

I'm just putting some theories together at the moment from a poll and a survey that I carried out. It seems that some people can keep very low nitrate from a berlin and/or refugium method whereas others just cant, despite having ample rock/flow/light bioload etc.

I have a theory that it may be down to differing amounts of free carbon sources in the water, because thats what dosing with vodka does apparently, is to add free carbon which the bacreria utilise to grow and process nitrate.
It is only a theory at the moment, but it seems to be gaining credibility, with me anyway, as none of the other variables seem to show anything consistent.

As Kev says, levels will fluctuate in a new setup, and hopefully your no3 will dissapear but if you do want any info on the korralin unit in the furure, let me know :)

Cheers

Chris :)

[Kev]

Be very interested to hear more on your theories Chris.

I think you make valuable comments about differing systems, and at the end of the day I am only speaking about what happens in mine, here and now, altough circ and skimming are very good proven contributors to water cleansing.

Kev

[course-its-reefsafe]

I'll put the conclusion up when its done, if there is one anyway lol

I've seen a lot of systems with good flow and heavy skimming with high nitrate levels and a lot with undetectable levels. We have a 5' tank at work that just has one Goby in it, 100kg of live rock, two large circulation pumps and 75ppm No3 for instance !!

and then there are other systems with loads of fish that don't even register nitrate on the test kit.

I find it quite interesting and annoying, so I'm on a bit of a mission to try and find some answers. I'll keep you posted anyway ;)


Cheers

Chris :)

[Macca]

How is this for a theory - Due to the large bio load on the tank with lots of nitrogen producing animals , the bacteria colony is rich and flourishing as it brakes down these compounds. On the tnak with loads of (Starving live rock) The bio load is so low that the bacteria colonies have all but gone and anything that is being produced is just slowly but surely gathering up.

He he he , My theory

James

[Leon]

i just get frustraighted cos every thing in tank appears to be doing fine leather corals and mushrooms are all growing and looking great and fish, I check water and only reading i get that is my nitrates are hihgh i ve added more circulation stripped all media apart from rowaphos from canister filter and skim water do regular water changes tried changing salt and i cant feed the poor little bugers any less!!! yet still get nitrate im going to post some pics of tank to see if any one has any thoughts on my rock formation etc thanks all

[Tetley]

i just get frustraighted cos every thing in tank appears to be doing fine leather corals and mushrooms are all growing and looking great and fish, I check water and only reading i get that is my nitrates are hihgh i ve added more circulation stripped all media apart from rowaphos from canister filter and skim water do regular water changes tried changing salt and i cant feed the poor little bugers any less!!! yet still get nitrate im going to post some pics of tank to see if any one has any thoughts on my rock formation etc thanks all


Hi Leon,

You say in your first post reading is about "20", if so, there is no need to worry (unless your keeping SPS)

I know of tanks with readings more than double that - and they look & run very well indeed.

ATB

Ian

[Leon]

put some pics for you all to have a butchers at. what do you think of my aquascaping because i get a dead spot under my power heads.

[Kev]

As Ian says. You probably have nothing to worry about, you have already reduced the nitrates with your actions.

You have a young nutrient laden tank. I would sit back, enjoy the view, relax and see what happens next.:)

Kev

[Leon]

put pics on for got how to doit lol:D

[Kev]

Hi Leon

Relax dude....chill.... karma.......wow.:cool:

Kev

[Leon]

Hi Leon

Relax dude....chill.... karma.......wow.:cool:

Kev
Im trying never thought id get stressed over a fish tank lol

[Kev]

Hi Leon

To be honest, I can remember getting stressed out in my "early days". One of the downsides was I used to react and do major changes with pretty catastrophic results. But then I did not have the internet to go to for advice.

Your tank seems to be doing fine. Thats enough. Let it settle, and just add stock slowly keeping a careful eye on water quality. The golden rule is stock slowly! If there is a problem, don't react rashly, think it through, ask questions, understand.

Relax and enjoy:D

Kev

[course-its-reefsafe]

How is this for a theory - Due to the large bio load on the tank with lots of nitrogen producing animals , the bacteria colony is rich and flourishing as it brakes down these compounds. On the tnak with loads of (Starving live rock) The bio load is so low that the bacteria colonies have all but gone and anything that is being produced is just slowly but surely gathering up.

He he he , My theory

James


I've heard that before, the idea of having too much rock. do you think that is possible?

I would've thought it would reach a natural balance, but I know nothing about bacteria. Any ideas appreciated :D

FWIW Leon, I'd echo everyone elses opinions not to worry about yours, I'm not convinced it really causes problems, not with softies anyway.

Cheers

Chris :)

[Kev]

but I know nothing about bacteria. Any ideas appreciated

Its that stuff under your finger nails, I got loads:D

Kev

[SteveS]

hi leon, nice looking tank you have there mate,

have you checked your ro water for nitrates m8, before and after adding the salt?

least that way you'll know if your adding nitrates on w/changes or its building up from detirus in the tank

hth
steve

[Kev]

I would have thought that the bacteria levels would constantly change, in response to changing bioloads. If there is no food, things will dies back, if there is more food, more will flourish?

Kev

[Leon]

hi leon, nice looking tank you have there mate,

have you checked your ro water for nitrates m8, before and after adding the salt?

least that way you'll know if your adding nitrates on w/changes or its building up from detirus in the tank

hth
steve
yeah checked it before and after i was getting a reading with a certan brand and have since switched brands and dont get any reading at all

[Kev]

Good one. You are starting to chill a bit Leon?:D

Kev

[Electric Monk]

How is this for a theory - Due to the large bio load on the tank with lots of nitrogen producing animals , the bacteria colony is rich and flourishing as it brakes down these compounds. On the tnak with loads of (Starving live rock) The bio load is so low that the bacteria colonies have all but gone and anything that is being produced is just slowly but surely gathering up.

He he he , My theory

James

Actually, after half a bottle of Lindemans Bin50 Shiraz, we like that theory :)