Bryopsis eating shrimp list! - 28th Nov

[Macca]

http://www.reefcorals.co.uk/forums/imagehosting/thum_4473db21b4ce03.jpg (http://www.reefcorals.co.uk/forums/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=711)

Family info: Peneidae (penaeid shrimps)
Species info: Heteropenaeus ???

:D Pros to date - Loves hair algae cant get enough
:mad: Cons to date - Can jump out aquaria.

reserved Bryopsis eating shrimps arriving on the 28th November, trial price - £10, add your name if you want to try this new craze!


List first come first served
Valentini
mfcfan
DollyDip
frosttelecoms
EM
ChinaPattern

[Mantis147]

What are these? Reefsafe?:confused:

[Macca]

What are these? Reefsafe?:confused:

According to peeps who have tried - yes! We have thousands of inverts that authors have not written about (does not mean they cannot be used in aquaria) so we need to determine ourselves hence the trial!

James

[mfcfan]

yes please 100%:D:D:D i will take one hmmmm it is funny looking how strange

steve :)

[Tetley]

According to peeps who have tried - yes! We have thousands of inverts that authors have not written about (does not mean they cannot be used in aquaria) so we need to determine ourselves hence the trial!

James

One of the "darkside" reefers has had one for a while, from you?

ATB

[Macca]

One of the "darkside" reefers has had one for a while, from you?

ATB


not sure ;) - Not from me direct anyway. - :rolleyes:

James

[Valentini]

I'll try one please ! plus I'll order some other inverts when it arrives

[Mantis147]

Do they just eat algae or will they accept frozen etc? Also how big do they grow? ive got a 2ft cube with a pistol shrimp would they get on? Think i might be due a journey to you shop!

[Macca]

I'll try one please ! plus I'll order some other inverts when it arrives


you have 1st choice m8!

James

[Macca]

Do they just eat algae or will they accept frozen etc? Also how big do they grow? ive got a 2ft cube with a pistol shrimp would they get on? Think i might be due a journey to you shop!

Need to find answers but its a mystery - I will do a bit of research or if anyone else can find any please add to list.

James

[Tetley]

Need to find answers but its a mystery - I will do a bit of research or if anyone else can find any please add to list.

James

Cut and paste job from the "darkside" , may help?



species to the genus Heteropenaeus longimanus

In my reference book it says up to 8.5 cm comes from Singapore, Indonesia, Philippines, Japen, Australia and Palau. Males have an extraordinary long first pereiopod (clawed leg) for example a male specimen with a carapace of 17.5mm the pereiopod is 66mm. Sold by Kg in Philippine fish markets.

Googling and translating the german sites. They are saying that this species eats bryopsis. Hopefully it's the species of bryopsis that we normal get in our tanks.

[Macca]

species to the genus Heteropenaeus longimanus


genus is Heteropenaeus, species is longimanus :D

or species is Heteropenaeus.sp or if you know for sure Heteropenaeus.longimanus


James

[Tetley]

genus is Heteropenaeus, species is longimanus :D

or species is Heteropenaeus.sp or if you know for sure Heteropenaeus.longimanus


James

It was a cut and paste job - not my words :o

Sorry boss. :o

ATB :D

[Macca]

cut and paste of taxonomic hierachy for Heteropenaeus longimanus De Man, 1896

Kingdom Animalia -- Animal, animals, animaux
Phylum Arthropoda -- arthropodes, arthropods, Artrópode
Subphylum Crustacea Brünnich, 1772 -- crustaceans, crustáceo, crustacés
Class Malacostraca Latreille, 1802
Subclass Eumalacostraca Grobben, 1892
Superorder Eucarida Calman, 1904 -- camarão, caranguejo, ermitão, lagosta, siri
Order Decapoda Latreille, 1802 -- crabes, crabs, crayfishes, crevettes, écrevisses, homards, lobsters, prawns, shrimp
Suborder Dendrobranchiata Bate, 1888
Superfamily Penaeoidea Rafinesque, 1815 -- crevettes pénaéïdes, penaeoid shrimps
Family Penaeidae Rafinesque, 1815 -- crevettes pénaéïdes, penaeid shrimps
Genus Heteropenaeus De Man, 1896
Species Heteropenaeus longimanus De Man, 1896


James

[mfcfan]

omg they just look like latin swear words to me:D

steve :)

[dollydip]

Heteropenaeus longimanus || Longimanus Shrimp



Heteropenaeus longimanus (http://www.meerwasser-lexikon.de/eng/55/2030/0/info.htm)

latin name:Heteropenaeus longimanuscommon speech name:Longimanus Shrimpappearance:Philippinen (http://www.meerwasser-lexikon.de/map.php?tier=2030)temperature:75.2 °F - 82.4 °F (24°C - 28°C)food:Algae, Flakes, Frozen Food (large sort), Mysisrecomended tanksize:22 gal (~ 100L)diffeculty:</B>2 - normalanimal husbandry:

i dont know wetther this helps or is the same shrimp i googled and this came up

[Macca]

thanks m8 - images are copyright - ohhh ya bad boy!


James

[dollydip]

oopppppsss sorry shall i edit it didnt realize
did i get the right one????

[Macca]

ye spot on i think, :rolleyes::D

not sure if linking a copyright photo is illegal. copying and paste is but linking????

anyone know?

James

[dollydip]

ill move them then paste a link to the site

[dollydip]

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.meerwasser-lexikon.de/bilder/tiere/thumb/2030.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.meerwasser-lexikon.de/eng/55/0/0/liste_Schrimps.htm&h=94&w=100&sz=3&hl=en&start=2&tbnid=xnLrCWodx-eBgM:&tbnh=77&tbnw=82&prev=/images%3Fq%3DHeteropenaeus%2Blongimanus%26hl%3Den% 26sa%3DG



4th pic on the right hand column

[richardb22]

Interesting. Apparently this edition of The Saltwater Aquarist has an article on H. Longimanus and bryopsis - http://www.dermeerwasseraquarianer.de/html/fruhere_hefte_4.html not sure what kind of detail it goes into but they say they sell back issues!

[mfcfan]

well done andy:D my it is a bit of an ugly ******:D

steve :)

[dollydip]

hey what you meen ugly it looks like the customers of silks on the weekends lol:D:D:D

[mfcfan]

Interesting. Apparently this edition of The Saltwater Aquarist has an article on H. Longimanus and bryopsis - http://www.dermeerwasseraquarianer.de/html/fruhere_hefte_4.html not sure what kind of detail it goes into but they say they sell back issues!

it's in german m8:D or can you change it?

steve :)

[mfcfan]

hey what you meen ugly it looks like the customers of silks on the weekends lol:D:D:D

lmao quality like it we are still too young to get in there m8 last time i was in the average age must have been 55:Dlol (not that there is anything wrong with being 55)

steve :)

[richardb22]

Loads of pictures of it here too: http://www.poppe-images.com/images/search_results.php?species=Heteropenaeus%20longima nus I think it's quite pretty! (at least its eyes)

[dollydip]

put me down for one james i like it its an oddball ( wonder if its ok with other shrimps????????)

[dollydip]

lmao quality like it we are still too young to get in there m8 last time i was in the average age must have been 55:Dlol (not that there is anything wrong with being 55)

steve :)

OMG must have been a long time since you been in there steve its were dan goes !!!! they let anyone in now lol

[mfcfan]

OMG must have been a long time since you been in there steve its were dan goes !!!! they let anyone in now lol

yeah now i think about it it was a while ago what year are we again:D

steve :)

[richardb22]

it's in german m8:D or can you change it?

steve :)

Nah you gotta buy the mag that page is just a list of topics in the issue. I doubt the article is really gonna be that helpful but at least it's confirmation that people have used them sucessfully before?

[mfcfan]

Nah you gotta buy the mag that page is just a list of topics in the issue. I doubt the article is really gonna be that helpful but at least it's confirmation that people have used them sucessfully before?

ok cheers richard

steve :)

[Sazmo]

Please can you add me to the list James.

[Electric Monk]

I'll have one James, looks cute (Not you, the shrimp :eek:)

Ok to Courier it?

[Macca]

I'll have one James, looks cute (Not you, the shrimp :eek:)

Ok to Courier it?

yep as long as it is not the same driver we got last time :eek:

James

[Macca]

Please can you add me to the list James.

Names added

James

[dollydip]

james you forgot to add me :eek:

[Macca]

oops - sorry big man! :o

James

[dollydip]

thank you :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[chinapattern]

Please put me down for one if I'm not too late. I asked on the other thread as I hadn't seen this one. Jetlag is my excuse!! :D

Jenny

[Sazmo]

Hiya, I need a few more snails to be added to my order with the shrimp. Can you let me know when you have the stock list.
Cheers
Sarah

[Macca]

Sarah - should have the list on Friday as stock arrives on Thursday.

Many thanks

James

[Sazmo]

Did the shrimps arrive? I have a garden of bryopsis I need a gardener for! :D

[Tom2006]

Put me down for one please (if your still doing the £5 delivery?). I take it that they are safe with other shrimps such as my cleaner shrimp?

[mad pierre]

Hi Macca,
how many of these shrimps would you recommend for 4x2x2 with hair algae problems? (assuming I give the rocks a good scrub down first in a seperate container).

Peter

[Macca]

Shrimps in stock - I would recommend only 1 per tank until we know more about their life habits.

James

[mad pierre]

Shrimps in stock - I would recommend only 1 per tank until we know more about their life habits.

James
Ok then please put me down for one. Will collect at the meet on the 9th unless this sunday would be ok? I could pay you for our tickets at the same time.
Peter

[Macca]

Sunday afternoon will be fine but be warned we have still an obstacle course on show :o

James

[mad pierre]

Sunday afternoon will be fine but be warned we have still an obstacle course on show :o

James

Great should see you there then. What times will you be there?

Peter

[Macca]

after 12 m8 :D

James

[Sazmo]

Great news, can you let me know the stock list as discussed so I can sort out a few more bits for the order.
cheers
sarah

[Macca]

Put me down for one please (if your still doing the £5 delivery?). I take it that they are safe with other shrimps such as my cleaner shrimp?

ATM £5 Delivery is for drystock ( buckets of salt etc) they cannont guarantee a next day delivery on livestock so our normal charge of £12.50 for national delivery on livestock implies. To send 1 shrimp would be very expensive.

James

[Macca]

Great news, can you let me know the stock list as discussed so I can sort out a few more bits for the order.
cheers
sarah

We have cerith snails, true turbos snails, nassarius, pygmy turbos and star astraliums/astrea snails (recommended).

We have various hermits in stock mostly the larger ones - haloween , blue eye and algae hermits. We might have the odd blues, mex red tip and scarlets.

Shrimps, a few anemone, bumble bee ( only a pair - very cute!). Cleaners, bropysis, boxers (blue legged and banded some pairs) and sexy. Blue and red and sand stars, Brittles - pink and black. Serpents maroon and banded.

Conch - various, cortez, stromus and orange lips.

Money cowries, cucumbers (various), scallops, oysters.

Some Sps, Lps, loads of live rock (fiji - ultra and premium).

James

[Valentini]

HI macca
Whats days do you ship livestock I'll add some hermits and dry stock to the shrimp order to make the postage worth while.

[Sazmo]

We have cerith snails, true turbos snails, nassarius, pygmy turbos and star astraliums/astrea snails (recommended).

We have various hermits in stock mostly the larger ones - haloween , blue eye and algae hermits. We might have the odd blues, mex red tip and scarlets.

Shrimps, a few anemone, bumble bee ( only a pair - very cute!). Cleaners, bropysis, boxers (blue legged and banded some pairs) and sexy. Blue and red and sand stars, Brittles - pink and black. Serpents maroon and banded.

Conch - various, cortez, stromus and orange lips.

Money cowries, cucumbers (various), scallops, oysters.

Some Sps, Lps, loads of live rock (fiji - ultra and premium).

James
Any prices?

[Tom2006]

Any word on if these shrimps will live with other shrimps i.e cleaners?

[Macca]

yes they are ok with other shrimps

James

[Sazmo]

Hiya, can you PM me a price for my shrimp and 10 astreas.
Sarah

[Macca]

I can send for Wednesday if price is right, can you give me a call around 7pm 01423 509595

James

[Sazmo]

Sorry I could not call - can you just email me a price or send paypal invioce. I will pay straight away.

[Macca]

We have spiny astreas, true turbos, black trochus in stock, as well as ceriths, I cant put prices online but are cheap. Email server is down. But I will enable my PM on theis board


James

[chondro-python]

Macca, irellivent to inverts, do you sell Arcadia series 3 halides with T5's Im looking for one that is 60cm and will support hard corals and a clam. the depth of the aquarium it would light up is just short of 2ft. Also interseted in Ehiem wet/dry external filters for a 120 litre aquarium. any prices would be great and do you have these in stock?

Cheers, Chondro-python.

[Valentini]

received my bryopsis shrimp and friends today Thx macca!
all settling in well, love the Conch everybody should have one .
will report on the progess of the shrimp in dew course.

[Sazmo]

Hi, I did try to PM but it still wouldnt go through.

[Macca]

Macca, irellivent to inverts, do you sell Arcadia series 3 halides with T5's Im looking for one that is 60cm and will support hard corals and a clam. the depth of the aquarium it would light up is just short of 2ft. Also interseted in Ehiem wet/dry external filters for a 120 litre aquarium. any prices would be great and do you have these in stock?

Cheers, Chondro-python.

i can get you a quote on the arcadia ;) , as the eheim but pigglet has a second hand one.

James

[Macca]

received my bryopsis shrimp and friends today Thx macca!
all settling in well, love the Conch everybody should have one .
will report on the progess of the shrimp in dew course.


I AGREE, everyone needs a conch :D

James

[Macca]

:D
Hi, I did try to PM but it still wouldnt go through.

try now :D

James

[Valentini]

Day one in the shrimp brother house!
1:15 pm Heteropenaeus longimanus is buried in the sand bed.

9:30 pm Shrimp brother turns off the main lights leaving the artic lighting on H L emerges from the sand bed to be met by Strawberry Gramma HL shows the ability to shoot backwards a foot in one movement several times bouncing off the T5’s .

10:30 pm Shrimp brother turns off the Artic lights Strawberry Gramma heads to bed , HL settles down and tucks into a supper of Bryopsis algae.

To sum up so far this shrimp seems to be nocturnal burying itself into the sand bed during the day .
It shoots off backwards at very high speed up to a foot at a time when startled, this is where it gets it reputation for carpet jumping I presume!
The good news is this shrimp has a serious appetite for bryopsis

[Macca]

To follow on; I have also noticed the tendency to bury themselves, they seem to be very easily scared - so no sudden movements or the can seriously dart in all directions (even out of the tank) dont seem to bother any other inverts including other shrimps.

Have a serious appetite for bryopsis :D but less so on derbesia :mad: although they have been taken it down slowly.

Putting these shrimps in your system to control unwanted algae - bryopsis certainly has its pros but due to their tendency to dart when disturbed this is the key decision IMO if one should be purchased.

James

[Sazmo]

Its great to hear first hand how these shrimps are doing. I am sitting poised by my door waiting for mine to arrive.
I have a bryopsis problem in 2 tanks and am treating one with a raise in mag, the other will have the shrimp. It will be interesting to see the differences between the 2 tanks over time. (assuming shrimp does not jump)

[mfcfan]

hmmmmm iam liking the serious appetite for bryopsis bit:D so caution is in order when approaching the tank as for the burying themselves in the sand bed iam scuppered as i have none:eek:

steve :)

[Sazmo]

Macca, PM Sent

[dollydip]

james have you noticed theseshrimps eating anything else???? flake frozen etc????

[Dave_P]

Nice to see I am quoted in other places :D

IIRC there is only one species to the genus, so I think the full name is ok.

Translating the german forums, they did say they were nocturnal and would eat other algae when the bryopsis is gone.

Nice to hear that they are doing their job.

[Macca]

If you can keep them in the tank that is. :D

They can jump like no other invert I have seen :D

James