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MR Teee
05-06-2007, 06:24 PM
The Mandarin Fish

Synchiropus splendidus

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Synchiropus picturatus

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As you may have have guessed there are 2 different sorts of mandarin fish, however they are very much the same in terms of care and requirements.


Requirements


Your reef tank should have already been established for at least six months to one year.
You need to have a minimum of 50kG of Live Rock.
It is recommended to having a working refugium incorporated and teaming with 'pods' of all kinds.Mandarin fish lack scales and instead have a rather thick, slimy, mucus coating on their bodies. This coating tends to make them rather resistant to parasitic skin diseases. If a Mandarin does get sick DO NOT use any heavy metal based medications (e.g. copper sulfate). Such medications cause an increase in body slime production and the fish can literally suffocate in their own body slime.

In fact, this holds true for most scale-less fish such as gobies and blennies.

Selection

The first thing that should be considered when selecting any fish is its overall health.
Are the eyes clear? Are there any apparent wounds? Are the fins torn, or cloudy? Does the breathing rate appear to be normal? Does the fish scratch or have any white spots that do not belong on it? Is it moving and swimming normally? Does the fish accept feeding at the local fish shop?
I don't suggest purchasing any fish without first seeing it eat, and mandarins are no exception to this. Although many times, fish will accept food when given time to acclimate to aquarium life, your odds of obtaining an animal that will survive more than a short time are better with specimens that you can be sure are eating well in captivity. Given the likelihood that you will see specimens that may have been exposed to cyanide poisoning, it makes testing them this way all the more important. If the fish you have your eye on does not eat, go back to the shop another day and ask them to try to feed it again. Any reputable shop will not sell fish they know are not eating to their customers anyway.

Check the underside of the stomach area for signs of malnutrition in both species. They all too often will be in some stage of starvation. Specimens that have concave stomachs are best avoided; some of them will recover and some will not, even if they are eating at the time you observe them in the store. Ask the local fish shop to feed any specimen that does not have a rounded stomach for a few days and see if it quickly recovers it's body weight. If it does rapidly begin the regain a healthy rounded body shape, then it can be given further consideration. Since so many that are available to purchase have lost body weight, it would be a shame not to give them a second chance to show if they will recover.

Sexing

look for an extended first dorsal ray in the males. The spendidus have a more pronounced difference in this first ray than do the pituratus. Males grow larger than females. Only one male should be kept per tank as they will otherwise fight. More than one female can be kept in the aquarium, given a large enough tank to accommodate their needs. I.e at least 50kg Live rock per fish.

Smaller specimens have a better chance to adapt to captivity, as is the case with many species of fish. This may also contribute to the length of time the fish is kept, as the smaller specimens are generally younger fish. Don't be alarmed by the night coloration of a Mandarin that has been in a dark tank. This is perfectly normal, although many people have reported they thought their fish were dead the first time they encountered a pale white Mandarin.

Feeding

Mandarins tend to be rather picky eaters, preferring to feed from the bottom. Due to the relatively small size of their mouth they must be
fed only small food items or finely chopped foods. As mentioned above they appear to do much better in aquariums with abundant live rock. This may be due to the fact that there is an abundance of natural food items for them to feed on. In such an aquarium they will spend most of the day grazing amongst the substrate searching for food items such as small crustaceans (e.g. Mysids, amphipods, isopods and benthic copepods), small worms and protozoans.
If you have a well stocked reef tank you will probably never have to give any additional feedings to your Mandarins. If you do decide to try
additional feedings you can try baby brine shrimp, frozen/live Mysis shrimp or adult brine shrimp. In some cases it may help to turn off
you water pumps and filters such that the food can settle to the bottom first so that the fish can get to them. If your Mandarins are
housed with larger, more aggressive fish, they will not get to the food in time. In any event, keep in mind that Mandarins are not big
eaters so any additional feedings should consist of small quantities of finely chopped foods.

lasgringo
05-06-2007, 06:28 PM
a nice read,very informative,thanks adam:)

ROB
05-06-2007, 06:31 PM
Very good all the info I needed on the fish on one page,


Very well done:D :D :D,


Regards Rob.

mousehunter22
05-06-2007, 06:35 PM
outstanding adam is this the start of the factfile thingy that eric was sorting?

MR Teee
05-06-2007, 06:40 PM
Yeah first draft of one.

I think it could do with a summary box, to capture all the info at a glance.

What would be good is if we keep adding to it as people post up comments on their own experiences.

e.g -> slow moving, and a hitchhiking crab can eat them, or Mine feeds beter if the food is soaked in Garlic.

moorish
05-06-2007, 06:41 PM
an excellent read,just what we need.derek

MrK
05-06-2007, 06:45 PM
Quality Info Adam.
Could we make this a sticky under Fish facts??? Not sure if this can be done or not:D

Mark

mousehunter22
05-06-2007, 06:51 PM
a summary box is a good idea so we could just use it as a at a glance guide,get the full info if required or just glance at the summary if your on your way to the LFS:D

stevieh
05-06-2007, 07:02 PM
well done looks good:)

Tangman
05-06-2007, 07:09 PM
Hi Adam thats the type of thing i was thinking about, also if we can add minimum tank size and feeding etc that would be good. Eric

mousehunter22
05-06-2007, 07:13 PM
Just a thought but in the summary put in an idiot guide for people like me!

IE: this fish needs at least 25kilo of live rock to survive and a minimum tank size of xxxxx and doesnt do well with aggresive fish!!!!

Sort of thing?????

Bigfoot
05-06-2007, 07:15 PM
very usefull Adam, I've got one on my wish list for when my tank is mature enough

oakwell
05-06-2007, 08:41 PM
good post but i think it would be better in a quick reference guide too.

think the forum would benefit with a factfile sticky page and then a quick ref chart with fish listed from top to bottom the along top info such as min tank specs, size fish will grow, reef safe? etc etc

Guest
05-07-2007, 02:12 PM
great post adam i finally got my mandarin fish from roys last thursday lovely fish too but never see much of it

oakwell
05-07-2007, 02:17 PM
mine was same for first week or so now always out feeding on rock work

Guest
05-07-2007, 03:26 PM
cheers daz

Gillybaby
05-07-2007, 04:09 PM
Great post Adam.

Just thinking it might be an idea to add what fish are incompatible with Mandarins, eg Sixline Wrasse. Mandarins can easily be bullied by other fish with the same eating habits. Would love a Mandarin myself but won't get one because I have a Sixline and wouldn't want to risk such a beautiful fish.

Also, should Scooter Blennies (Synchiropus ocellatus) not be included too? I know many people get these fish thinking they are blennies when they are not and should be treated in much the same way as other Mandarins.

Just a couple of thoughts, dismiss if these have already been thought of :o

MR Teee
05-07-2007, 04:13 PM
No no, good Idea Gilly, Didn't think of the compatability section.

Keep em coming folks.

Don't be afraid of doing some bits either, I think Eric inteded this to be a whole forum participation thingy, not just the opinion of one person.

Guest
05-07-2007, 04:17 PM
good idea gilly with compatability theme to be honest i never thought a bout a six line wrasse problem i wouldnt have thought it would have been an issue its down to other peoples knowledge like yourselves we learn everyday :)

MR Teee
05-25-2007, 06:18 PM
So summary box:-

Latin name
Region of Origin
Max fish Size
Minimum tank size required
Succeptable diseases
Feeding requirements
Reef tank suitability
Other fish compatability


Should there be any more?

mousehunter22
05-25-2007, 06:21 PM
Nope that sounds simple,clean,short enough and to the point:D

Just enough to keep my attention:D

ROB
05-25-2007, 06:43 PM
So summary box:-

Latin name
Region of Origin
Max fish Size
Minimum tank size required
Succeptable diseases
Feeding requirements
Reef tank suitability
Other fish compatability


Should there be any more?

Perhaps how mature the tank should be, just an Idea,

Rob,

MR Teee
05-25-2007, 06:44 PM
was going to mention that in the feeding requirements ROB. It's pretty unique to mandarins that one.

d j
05-25-2007, 07:06 PM
great info nice and easy to read lot of usefull stuff would be great to have a list like this of easy to keep fish for new reef keepers:p

Gillybaby
05-25-2007, 07:17 PM
I think that just about sums it up Adam, all anyone should need to know at a glance. Unless you want to add a miscellaneous bit at the bottom for adding anything unique, it could be left blank for the majority of entries but is at least there for those comments that don't fit anywhere else.

If you need a hand with any, let me know ;)

ROB
05-25-2007, 08:50 PM
was going to mention that in the feeding requirements ROB. It's pretty unique to mandarins that one.

Oh by the way I meant to say very good format concise and very informative, Looking forward to reading them,

Regards Rob.

Paul P.
05-26-2007, 10:47 AM
Excellent thread

I waited 2 years to get my Mandarin (Synchiropus splendidus) I have a
5x2.5(h)x2 and 150kg of lr but was still worried about getting one, it was eating frozen on the day I first saw it but still reserved it in the lfs for 2 weeks and made regular visits to make sure it was still feeding before buying it.

just to add my two penneth on the compatibility issue, I also have a sixline wrasse(my in tank clam protection system lol) and apart from a bit of "staring out" by the 6 line for a couple of hours after adding the Mandarin was added they totally ignore each other,

I think a major factor is the size of the tank and the amount of lr I have(see above) i`d be very wary of having these two in a smaller tank where competition for territory and food supply could become a major issue.