Copper and Tangs

[Zeus]

Hi folks,

Just been reading the latest posts on the White Spot thread, sorry to hear of your losses Mousehunter22, and I know that PBs are one of the worst for White Spot. I also know that treating them, Tangs in general, with copper is generally not advised.

However, I thought this was because of their skin, like Gobies, but I have just found out that it's to do with microbes/bacteria in their gut/digestive system.

So it there anyway that Tangs can successfully be treated with copper either prophylactically or remedially?

Cheers,
Campbell

[Zeus]

Bumpity!!!

Has no-one any insight or thoughts on this?

Campbell

[lee1]

was that a tumbleweed just pass:confused: :D

[Tetley]

Hi Cambell,

I have no experience of this. I have recently had a nasty experience in my tank, and the thought of ripping apart the reef to catch the fish, and then treating in a seperate tank, was not something I wanted to consider.

I have read numerous posts by one the fish doctors on that other BB, maybe he might be the person to ask, as fish disease and treatment seems to be his area of knowledge (Wombat).

HTH

Ian

[Kev]

I can't comment, but have read about Tangs and intolerance to copper. Best thing is to try and not get the problems in the first place. Sometimes easier said than done though. Eric may have an insight?

[brian waller]

Hi folks,

Just been reading the latest posts on the White Spot thread, sorry to hear of your losses Mousehunter22, and I know that PBs are one of the worst for White Spot. I also know that treating them, Tangs in general, with copper is generally not advised.

However, I thought this was because of their skin, like Gobies, but I have just found out that it's to do with microbes/bacteria in their gut/digestive system.

So it there anyway that Tangs can successfully be treated with copper either prophylactically or remedially?

Cheers,
Campbell

hi zeus,i belive in uv units, run 24-7 cant go wrong ,prevention is better then cure.

brian.

[moorish]

have a look on reef central they recommend using copper but in small amounts,others recommend dropping the salinity down.derek

[Tangman]

The best way to keep Tangs is keep the stress down and feed them 5 or 6 times a day with a mixture of food soaked in garlic and vitamins. Also when you buy a tang make sure that it is nice and fat, and not pinched and skinny as you will have no chance of rearing it if its thin. HTH Eric:D

[Zeus]

Thanks folks,

I will hopefully get a Tomini Tang in the near future. Dobbies in Ayr have one but I don't have room in the QT at the moment.

Curiously they are calling it Gold Rush, which I thought was a Damsel?

Personally I call them Tommy Tinker Tangs. :D

Campbell

[Reefer]

You could try it as a suppository??

[sinder255248]

I agree, keep feeding them and as long as their healthy they'll get over it. My regal shows signs every now and again, had his for 1 1/2 years now and it's never really had any adverse effect. At first i tried treating with fresh water dips, but it was far to stressful for him and they only came back again cos I couldn't let the tank go fallow for a month, so in the end I gave up trying to treat. I also tried one of those reef safe treatments, and it did clear up, but has come back since.

[ROB]

Hi folks,

Just been reading the latest posts on the White Spot thread, sorry to hear of your losses Mousehunter22, and I know that PBs are one of the worst for White Spot. I also know that treating them, Tangs in general, with copper is generally not advised.

However, I thought this was because of their skin, like Gobies, but I have just found out that it's to do with microbes/bacteria in their gut/digestive system.

So it there anyway that Tangs can successfully be treated with copper either prophylactically or remedially?

Cheers,
Campbell

Just a thought A few years ago a friend of mine's Yellow tang got White spot he tried the fresh water baths but to no avail until I suggested a QT and fresh water baths also IIRC there was a product called an Oxygen Bath? not sure how that worked but I digress the combination of the QT plus Fresh water dips did do the trick but it did take a couple of months in QT as well as baths HTH,

ROB.

[Zeus]

Hi all,

Interesting!!

According to some studies by Burgess and Matthew, who tried to maintain populations of the parasite, Cryptocaryon Irritans suffers from cell lines aging, senescence, and will self destruct after about 34 cycles, about 11 months, without new additions to the aquarium.

So 2 months QT for very purchase or 12 months with no new livestock whatsoever, I know which one I choose.

No, there's no 3rd option.

Campbell